 | Politics "wid" a taste of Philly, by Will Bunch of the Philadelphia Daily News |
| Politics "wid" a taste of Philly, by Will Bunch of the Philadelphia Daily News |
Many of you have been waiting for the first major poll to come out after Kerry whomped Bush in Thursday's debate -- and here it is, courtesy of Newsweek. You already knew that JK won the debate, and now he's back in the (margin-of-error) lead, 47-45. But don't take our word -- read it for yourself.
NEWSWEEK POLL: BUSH LEAD GONE
Sat Oct 02 2004 16:42:32 ET
New York-Sixty-one percent of Americans who watched the first presidential debate on September 30 say Sen. John Kerry won; 19 percent say President George W. Bush won and 16 percent say they tied, according to the latest Newsweek Poll which was conducted after the debate ended. Fifty-six percent say Kerry did better than they expected; 11 percent say so for Bush. Thirty-eight percent say Bush did worse than expected; 3 percent say so for Kerry, the poll shows.
The debate erased the lead the Bush/Cheney ticket has held over Kerry/Edwards in the Newsweek Poll since the Republican convention. In a three-way trial heat including Ralph Nader/Peter Camejo, among registered voters Kerry/Edwards leads Bush/Cheney 47 percent v. 45 percent with 2 percent for Nader/Camejo. In a two-way heat, Kerry/Edwards leads 49 percent v. 46 percent for Bush/Cheney, the poll shows.
A 62-percent majority of viewers says Kerry seemed more confident and self-assured (26% say so for Bush) and 51 percent say Kerry had better command of issues and facts (37% for Bush). Forty-seven percent say Kerry seemed more personally likeable (41 % for Bush) and 49 percent say Kerry came closer to reflecting their own views on most foreign policy issues (43% for Bush). The two were nearly even on several other points, including who came across as a strong leader (47% Kerry, 44% Bush) and who had a better plan for dealing with the situation in Iraq (45% for both). Forty percent of viewers thought Kerry was too wordy and 57 percent thought Bush was too repetitive.
Fifty-seven percent of all poll respondents say they are dissatisfied with the way things are going in the United States at this time. Bush's job approval rating dropped two points from the Sept. 9-10 Newsweek Poll to 46 percent-a 6-point drop since the poll taken during and after the Republican convention. Forty-eight percent of registered voters polled say they would not like to see Bush re-elected but almost as many (46%) say they would.
Among registered voters, 60 percent say they know "a lot" about what Bush stands for, compared to 38 percent who say so about Kerry, the poll shows.
During the debate, President Bush said the military would remain "an all-volunteer army," but if Bush is re-elected, 38 percent of registered voters say the draft is likely to be reinstated; 51 percent say it's not, according to the poll. If Kerry is elected president, 18 percent say the draft is likely to be reinstated; 67 percent say it is not. And 62 percent of registered voters say reinstating the draft should not be considered at this time; 28 percent say it should be considered.
A 60-percent majority of registered voters say Bush administration policies and diplomatic efforts have led to more anti-Americanism around the world and 51 percent say the administration has not done enough to involve major allies and international organizations in trying to achieve its foreign policy goals, the poll shows.
As for who will handle issues better overall, among registered voters Bush leads Kerry 52 to 40 percent on terrorism and homeland security; the situation in Iraq (49% vs. 44%); the situation involving Israel and the Palestinians (46% vs. 39%) and controlling the spread of nuclear weapons (47% v. 43%). Kerry scores better on the economy (52% vs. 39%); health care, including Medicare (56% to 34%) and American jobs and foreign competition (54% vs. 36%), the poll shows.
Overall, 62 percent say Bush has strong leadership qualities (compared to 56% who say so for Kerry). Sixty-six percent say Bush says what he believes, not just what people want to hear, compared to 48 percent for Kerry. Sixty-five percent say Bush is personally likeable (63% say so for Kerry). But more registered voters (57%) say Kerry is honest and ethical (vs. 55% for Bush); the same amount (51%) says they would trust Kerry to make the right decisions during an international crisis as would trust Bush (51%); and more (57%) say Kerry cares about people like them (vs. 49% for Bush). And 80 percent of registered voters say Kerry is intelligent and well informed, compared to 59 percent for Bush.
On Iraq, 50 percent of registered voters polled say the war in Iraq was not necessary; 46 percent say it was. And 55 percent of registered voters say going to war in Iraq has not made Americans safer from terrorism; 41 percent say it has. Fifty-one percent of registered voters say the Bush administration misinterpreted or misanalyzed the intelligence reports it said indicated Iraq had banned weapons; 41 percent say it didn't. And 45 percent say the administration purposely misled the public about evidence that Iraq had banned weapons in order to build support for the war; 50 percent say it did not.
During is 19-year career in the U.S. Senate, Kerry has changed his position on a number of issues. From what they know about Kerry, 47 percent of registered voters say this is because Kerry is thoughtful and changes position as circumstances change or he learns more about an issue; the same number (47%) say it's because Kerry is politically-motivated and changes his position when he thinks it will improve his image or help him win an election.
For this Newsweek Poll, Princeton Survey Research Associates International interviewed 1,013 registered voters on Sept. 30-Oct. 2, 2004.
the news looks good. lets make sure to keep pounding the bushies 24/7 and snuff out this nonsense about kerry wanting to get world approval before going to war. these bozos never sleep and neither should we. it is a pleasure to have a candidate with a brain. lets throw out the zero and elect the hero. i bet edwards will slice and dice dickie and i can't wait to watch.
Posted by: greg at October 2, 2004 09:28 PMThank God. Let's help this continue.
Posted by: Steve at October 2, 2004 09:43 PMHere, Here, Greg. It's great to have both the Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates with a brain.
Posted by: e.w. keller at October 2, 2004 10:54 PMExactly. Now if we can just convince the majority of Americans that intelligence is something to be desired, not disdained, in a president...
Posted by: Ruth at October 2, 2004 11:10 PMBush is like a turtle on a fencepost... you know he didn't get there on his own... he doesn't belong there... he is not doing anyone any good being up there... you just want to help him down.
Posted by: Patrick at October 2, 2004 11:30 PMi think the polls in 2000 were off about 11 points they all had bush ahead by 7points and actually gore was ahead by 4
Posted by: tom fraker at October 3, 2004 10:49 AM
Finally, the tide has turned. The impostor in the White House is gradually being exposed. There is hope. Truth is on the march. We need to ride this tide to change.
A clear victory for Kerry. Edwards should have very little trouble trouncing Cheney. If it gets too bad, Cheney could tell Edwards to **** off. Bush looked confused, angry, lost and mad at the fact that he had to show up at all, and those were his good points. 29 days until the election. Kerry needs our support more than ever. We need Bush out for good for soiling the White House like he's done. Go get him John!!!
Posted by: Gary at October 4, 2004 09:51 AMThe man who lost the debate (GW Bush) is know to be very sharp among right wing dingo Republicans; so sharp that he know sports a pointed head.
Posted by: Dom at October 4, 2004 08:41 PMHey Dom, if you're going to make pompous comments, you should probably learn the difference between "now" and "know".
Posted by: jeff at October 5, 2004 10:50 AMUmmm sorry to dissapoint you guys but there is evidence that the newsweek poll wasn't a true representation. As I'm undecided after the last debate, I'd like to hear why you all love Kerry so much.
Posted by: Meg at October 5, 2004 12:20 PMHi Meg. In answer to your query as to why we like Kerry so much; HE'S NOT BUSH! That, and Democrats historically seem to represent low and middle income Americans better than the Republicans, who usually side more with big business and the top 5% of the wealthy in America. DUMP BUSH!
Posted by: Chris at October 6, 2004 01:52 AMI didn't ask why you didn't like Bush, I asked why you liked Kerry. Big buisness and the "top 5% of wealthy America" could also be classifed as big buisness and small buisness. Many small buisnesses get their pants taxed off of them because of high taxes and complex tax code. One of my close friends had to shut down his small buisness because he was taxed for money that immediately went for equiptment for his buisness. I have misgivings about Kerry--his voting and military records, and it scares me to think of him running this war. Especially the way he's been dissing our allies and being pal buddy buddy with our enemies. He's a national war hero in Korea--this guy is scary. Bush on the other hand seems stable and there are things I like about him--but there are also things in his domestic policies that I don't like.
Posted by: Meg at October 6, 2004 09:25 AMMeg, what's not to like about John Kerry? Your questioning his military record? Here's a guy who had the guts to fight in Vietnam, earning three purple hearts for his bravely -- and then had the courage of his convictions to speak out -- as unpopular as it may have been at the time -- on the atrocities of that hellish war.
What would you have rather him done? Keep his mouth shut on the murders, the horrors of the war -- adding to the government's concealment of what was really going on in Vietnam?
And who better-qualified to speak out on these serious injustices than someonme like Kerry, who was in the thick of it all and should know. Isn't this the kind of man with integrity you'd like to see in the White House?
Contrast Kerry's war record with the pathetic Bush, who by virtue of his blue blood privilege not only gained a pass on the war with the help of daddy, but then failed to meet his obligations in the Texas Air National Guard.
Try to keep from laughing.
Kerry's Iraq war vote record has been grossly distorted by the king of flip-floppers, George W. Bush and the Karl Rove spin machine.
Kerry's adjustments in his vote record suggest a thinking man, processing new vital information has it becomes available, and refusing to let Bush get away with any his typical underhanded schemes to force his way.
Would you want a sincere, intelligent leader as president or the rigid, closed-minded, numbskull Bush has demonstrated himself to be?
LOL... Sorry I hit a hot spot there. But you can't deny that there has been unrefuted questions brought up about his military record. We ALL know that Kerry went to Vietnam--and I'm not putting him down for that, it does take guts. I know he has the above stated medals, and I also know that the vietnamese would have surrenedered had Kerry not testified about these "war crimes." And I know that the tape of Kerry testifying was played in vietnamese jails for POWs who didn't need such encouragement. Uh, go check out the facts on Bush's service. The reason he left early (with honorable discharge) was because he served over and beyond the quoda. All I was saying that between the voting and questions about the military records, I have many misgivings. I think Bush handled the war very well, and the economy is coming back, but there are some domestic issues that I don't agree with Bush on at all..
Posted by: Meg at October 7, 2004 01:13 PMAlrighty then ...
Posted by: Kevin at October 7, 2004 04:32 PMMeg,
"I also know that the vietnamese would have surrenedered had Kerry not testified about these "war crimes.""
I can't understand how someone could actually say this so casually. Did we read different history books? The US was suffering tremendous losses in Vietnam, with the end count being the death of about 58,000 US troops. It was a war the US was unprepared to win because of the guerilla tactics used by the enemy. Did the US in theory have enough military might to bring the Viet Cong to their knees? Yes, probably...we could have started firebombing their cities and villages like we did in WWII in Europe and Japan. But that would have killed many innocent civilians. Did the Vietnamese communists pose such a grave threat to international security that such action would have been warranted? NO.
"And I know that the tape of Kerry testifying was played in vietnamese jails for POWs who didn't need such encouragement."
And I know that war crimes were indeed committed in Vietnam by american troops. Sad to say, but true. Why do you blame Kerry instead of the people who committed these crimes? Why not blame Lt William Calley and his troops for the massacre of innocent Vietnamese civilians at My Lai?
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