Campaign Extra!: Toxic Drudge -- why Iraq missing weapons knockdown is a fraud

Election 2004

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Nothing indicates panic in Bushworld more than a flashing red siren atop the Drudge Report. Tonight, the mega-popular site tries to knock down the big story of the week. That would be the disappearance of some 380 tons of high explosives from a facility south of Baghdad, explosives now being used to kill American G.I.s.

The story is said to be based on an NBC News report, although there's no link.

Let's set it up so we can tear it down:

The [New York Times] urgently reported on Monday how the Iraqi interim government has warned the United States and international nuclear inspectors that nearly 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives are now missing from one of Iraq's most sensitive former military installations.

Jumping on the [Times] exclusive, Dem presidential candidate John Kerry blasted the Bush administration for its failure to "guard those stockpiles."

...But tonight, NBC News reported, once: The 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives were already missing back in April 10, 2003 -- when U.S. troops arrived at the installation south of Baghdad!

An NBC News crew embedded with troops moved in to secure the Al-Qaqaa weapons facility on April 10, 2003, one day after the liberation of Iraq.

According to NBC News, the HMX and RDX explosives were already missing when the American troops arrived.

It is not clear why the [Times] failed to report the cache had been missing for 18 months -- and was reportedly missing before troops even arrived.

"The U.S. Army was at the sight one day after the liberation and the weapons were already gone," a top Republican blasted from Washington late Monday.

There's several holes in this account that you can drive a Bradley personnel carrier through. In fact, it's hard to know where to begin:

1) As numerous news accounts show, the al Qa Qaa facility was liberated by American troops not on April 10 but on April 3, 2003 -- one full week earlier that the NBC reporter is said to claim. This AP story, filed on April 5, describes some of what troops found there two days earlier.

2) As the articles also make clear, UN weapons inspectors had been all over the site, as recently as March 8, and had verified that the HMX and RDX was intact that winter. Why are these dates significant? Because the weapons inspectors were warned to leave Iraq on March 17. They were warned to leave not because of any imminent danger from Saddam Hussein's weakened regime, but because the Bush administration had already decided to launch the invasion there.

How can one say this any more clearly? These weapons were secured and carefully watched over by weapons inspectors on our side -- until we told them to leave. At some point after that, the weapons were stolen and used to kill American soldiers.

3) There substantial evidence that the entire story on Drudge is baloney, as discussed in detail tonight by Josh Marshall, who's been way ahead of the pack on this story.

He notes: A Pentagon "official who monitors developments in Iraq" told the Associated Press today that "US-led coalition troops had searched Al-Qaqaa in the immediate aftermath of the March 2003 invasion and confirmed that the explosives, which had been under IAEA seal since 1991, were intact."

That of course would mean that the explosives were not removed from the facility until some point after the war. And that would be in line with what the Iraqis two weeks ago told the IAEA.

What's more, Marshall points out that even if the weapons were removed in late March or early April, the U.S. government's various accounts of how it learned of the thefts are riddled with lies.

The only thing we're totally sure of is that there'll be more attempts like this to divert attention from what really happened between now and Nov. 2. Don't sink in a vat of Drudge.

Wonder who that "top Republican official" is.

Posted on October 25, 2004 11:26 PM

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Aww geee, too bad! Don't you hate it that you Libs can't spread disinformation in peace any more?

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Posted by: Cato Uticensis at October 25, 2004 11:40 PM

ROFL! Once again, republicans love to spin, distort and alter the facts. It shows how 'smart' they are, no? Hahaha. But unfortunately for them, nothing works this time.

Posted by: Phil at October 25, 2004 11:59 PM

NBCNEWS: HUGE CACHE OF EXPLOSIVES VANISHED FROM SITE IN IRAQ -- AT LEAST 18 MONTHS AGO -- BEFORE TROOPS ARRIVED

The NYTIMES urgently reported on Monday in an apprent October Surprise: The Iraqi interim government has warned the United States and international nuclear inspectors that nearly 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives are now missing from one of Iraq's most sensitive former military installations.

Jumping on the TIMES exclusive, Dem presidential candidate John Kerry blasted the Bush administration for its failure to "guard those stockpiles."

"This is one of the great blunders of Iraq, one of the great blunders of this administration," Kerry said.

In an election week rush:

**ABCNEWS Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 4 Times
**CBSNEWS Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 7 Times
**MSNBC Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 37 Times
**CNN Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 50 Times

But tonight, NBCNEWS reported: The 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives were already missing back in April 10, 2003 -- when U.S. troops arrived at the installation south of Baghdad!

An NBCNEWS crew embedded with troops moved in to secure the Al-Qaqaa weapons facility on April 10, 2003, one day after the liberation of Iraq.

According to NBCNEWS, the HMX and RDX explosives were already missing when the American troops arrived.

"The U.S. Army was at the site one day after the liberation and the weapons were already gone," a top Republican blasted from Washington late Monday.

The International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors last saw the explosives in January 2003 when they took an inventory and placed fresh seals on the bunkers.

Dem vp hopeful John Edwards blasted Bush for not securing the explosives: "It is reckless and irresponsible to fail to protect and safeguard one of the largest weapons sites in the country. And by either ignoring these mistakes or being clueless about them, George Bush has failed. He has failed as our commander in chief; he has failed as president."

A senior Bush official e-mailed DRUDGE late Monday: "Let me get this straight, are Mr. Kerry and Mr. Edwards now saying we did not go into Iraq soon enough? We should have invaded and liberated Iraq sooner?"

Top Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart fired back Monday night: "In a shameless attempt to cover up its failure to secure 380 tons of highly explosive material in Iraq, the White House is desperately flailing in an effort to escape blame. Instead of distorting John Kerry’s words, the Bush campaign is now falsely and deliberately twisting the reports of journalists. It is the latest pathetic excuse from an administration that never admits a mistake, no matter how disastrous."

Posted by: sally at October 26, 2004 12:33 AM

Well, best settle in for Four more years.

-Followed by eight more years -and so on...

Posted by: Joe Ratzingerer at October 26, 2004 12:46 AM

It's just a trial ballon. They couldn't use Novak, so Drudge is doing their spinning.

Posted by: Bobsled at October 26, 2004 12:47 AM

I tip my hat to you, Sally, good job.

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Posted by: Cato Uticensis at October 26, 2004 12:47 AM

ooops

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Posted by: Joe Ratzinger at October 26, 2004 12:48 AM

Sally,

I just gotten the trans script from MSNBC about "380 Tons Explosives vanished from site in Iraq way before our troops arrived." You're report is right on and it is true. Good work!

Looks like Kerry really stepped into his blunder which is called "crap" nation wide. Hey? you think that Singer Ashlee Simpson (Saturday Night Live Blunder) and might be related?

Keep up the good work!

[ADMIN NOTE: THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT "TED," BUT "SALLY" PATTING "HERSELF" ON THE BACK.]

Posted by: Ted at October 26, 2004 01:03 AM

You rightwingnuts, ie Sally and Matt etc, sure do NOT KNOW how to READ, do ya! NO WONDER you're such a totally ignorant bunch of morons. :)

Troops were at Al Qaqaa on APRIL 3, 2003. And on that date, the HE were all INTACT and still SEALED.

That REALLY isn't that difficult to understand, you silly foolish duped rightwingnut rubes.

Posted by: Lynn at October 26, 2004 01:36 AM

Just to make it easier for the silly little rightwingnut morons who can't read;

A Pentagon "official who monitors developments in Iraq" told the Associated Press today that "US-led coalition troops had searched Al-Qaqaa in the immediate aftermath of the March 2003 invasion and confirmed that the explosives, which had been under IAEA seal since 1991, were intact."

Awwww poor little fools...already Drudge is backtracking on his bullshit story. And you rightwingnut idiots look like the silly little morons you are. Again. As always.

How pathetic. :)

Posted by: Lynn at October 26, 2004 01:40 AM

Why are you lying Lynn?

I just went to Drudge and there is nothing about what you said there. He lists the story as "developing, not "backing off."

I guess the Liberal "genius" just showed herself to be a big horse's ass. Hee haw!

Matt Dedinas
3rd Infantry Division (1996-1999)

Posted by: Cato Uticensis at October 26, 2004 02:04 AM

what's more- Drudge is a far more credible source than Bunch, or you Lynn. You on the Left are so devoid of any substance to you, all you can do is make up stuff about President Bush. Like Dan of the Forged Documents Rather. I'm sure you and Bunch believed that story long after reality dawned on the general population.

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3rd Infantry Division (1996-1999)

Posted by: Cato Uticensis at October 26, 2004 02:18 AM

'Drudge is a far more credible source'

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I truly pity you.. you must be the most ignorant person on this earth. LA Times, Washington Post and others already debunked Drudge's spin. A-l-r-e-a-d-y. In case you maybe cannot read as what Lynn said.. I repeat: A-l-r-e-a-d-y debunked Drudge's spin.

I suggest you to walk away from your computer slowly and sit in the corner and live in your 'fantasy' world. It will do you a trick.

Posted by: Phil at October 26, 2004 03:29 AM

Oh PULLEEEESE Cato, grow the f up already, geeez. Drudge has been proved wrong so damn many times already it's ridiculous.

Yeah I believe the "rathergate" documents like YOU probably still believe bush's YELLOWCAKEGATE, or bush's "Iraq did 911" insinuations, or bush's "there is no doubt" and rumsfailed's "we know where they are", and bush's "that's news to me...want wood?" and "that's one of those exaggerations" coz as we ALL KNOW, bush NEVER EVER said he didn't give a damn about OBL except that he in fact did say that.

OOPS, bush is either one hell of a liar, or he's brain-dead. Which is it, cato?

And anyone who still supports the lying POS is as stupid and as brain-dead as bush is.

Gee, guess that means YOU, cato.

By the way, cato, why aren't YOU in Iraq dying for your bush-god's LIES??? HMMM???

COWARD, huh. Like all rightwingnut idiot morons. Pure total COWARDS.

Posted by: Lynn at October 26, 2004 04:14 AM

Gee Lynn,

Either you're an absolute idiot or just insecure baboon is how you're coming across in your child like message.

Maybe if you read all issues, maybe, you might learn something by becoming more inform. If you tried something new like reading, listening or even asking questions other than insulting on issues which you have no clue. Maybe, just maybe, there's hope? Hmmmm...I doubt it.

Posted by: sandy at October 26, 2004 08:36 AM

As always, the media failed attempts to bring Bush down. Sounds like they're all doing the Rathergate!

Liberals-Democrats sure would be nice if you could get your story right for once! Sally, it's too easy for this person who posted this to change a story. That's disappointing and disingenuous. Typical LIBERAL crap always trying to bluff their way through life! They're doing the John Kerry...Kerry trying to be President Bush here.... I have faith, I have a gun, and I watch baseball (President Bush use to own a baseball team "Texas Rangers).

Kerry is such a fake. Big Opps! Kerry told a lie during the debate about about meeting with all the United Nations in regards to Saddam and War.

John Scary got caught with his pants down this time, Washington Post actually called the UN members to check Kerry's facts. Members whom Kerry was suppose to have a meeting with, all denied ever meeting with Kerry! NO MEETING TOOK PLACE! Liberal-Democrats will BLINDLY follow this big RAT! You know like Three Blind Mice!

Sean Hannity on Thursday's would have Flipper go out on to the street and talk to people live. Guess what? Young voters didn't know what Kerry did in his 20 years as congressman nor did they know who the VP is today! They're Voting?
How sad is that! They could be voting for Fidel Casro of Cuba and not know who he is.

Posted by: tim at October 26, 2004 09:43 AM

Hey, "sally"/"sandy"/"tim":

It's good to see you commenting on-topic this time, but pick an identity and stick with it. I don't care what your real name is, but you're continuing to try to deceive people here by posting under multiple names when it's clear from our logs they're all you. If you won't abide by this basic concept of truth in commenting, you'll be banned. Thanks.

Posted by: admin at October 26, 2004 09:54 AM

Uh Hello? Have you ever heard of room mates using same computer with different names? It happens.

Posted by: Tim at October 26, 2004 10:34 AM

I'm not clear on what the confusion is. It seems that the weapons were there when the US forces arrived on the site. If the site was looted, then the Administration should simply own up to it.

I guess my problem with this administration is that they cannot handle criticism. Of course no one wants to be shown they are wrong about something, especially with the campaign a week away.

But honesty does matter. The Bush Administration seems to be more wedded to the idea of certainly and strength in the absence of facts than it does to honest discourse. I know the piece in the NYTimes two Sundays ago alluded to this but it really is a scary trait of the President. Bush's fear of and intolerance of honest debate is highly troubling.

Posted by: CJ at October 26, 2004 12:09 PM

> Uh Hello? Have you ever heard of room mates using same computer with different names? It happens.

LOL - Then in addition to your roommates "Sandy" and "Sally," please tell "Cindy" and "Ted" (yes, I guess he stopped by on one occasion too!) hello for me.

Posted by: admin at October 26, 2004 01:33 PM

Please. Multiple sources have pointed out that the explosives were clearly there when troops landed, and those sources have been there for a while. If it was actually true that the explosives were gone, then that's what the administration would have said yesterday, rather than going into diversion mode with the 'xxx,000 pounds of munitions' and 'many sites to guard' crap and would not have given Kerry the day to hammer Bush on it.

But the explosives >>were>no plan<< to guard them, despite the warnings, and this has not come to light until now. Who's been keeping the news down?

Posted by: Doug P. at October 26, 2004 01:36 PM

Who is clueless? Recent study shows Bush supporters are less informed than Kerry supporters!

http://www.pipa.org/

So as a Bush supporter, you either make over $200,000 a year and ignore Bush's transgressions, or you "don't read" and don't have all the facts, just like Bush.

Posted by: Joe T at October 26, 2004 02:36 PM

CJ- Not admitting to someone's lies about you does not mean you can't handle criticism. Benedict Arnold Kerry has done nothing but make false accusations about Bush since this campaign began. And this is just one more pathetic attempt by the Liberal media and Kerry, who doesn't have anything to commend himself to the voters, except being a hero of North Vietnam, to lob another lie at Bush. Remember Dan Rather and his obviously forged documents? I'd like to see what the author of this blog had to say about them, no doubt he went right along with them, and probably still believes in them.

Joe T- you are the one devoid of facts. Kerry supporters tend to be people who contemplate their navels in an ivory tower. Bush supporters are the educated people who live in the real world. And, to enlighten your ignorance, I don't make anything close to $200K.

Kerry, on the other hand- a gigolo who hasn't done an honest days work in his life, but has mansions to rival Saddam Hussein's palaces because he conned not one, but two billionaire heiresses into marrying him, this guy is the working man's champion? Oh yeah, right!!! Let me know when you get back from la-la land!

Lynn- Actually, Drudge has been the one to tell the annoying truths that the Liberal media like to ignore. Facts can be annoying things. I might enjoy having an intelligent conversation with you, Lynn, if you ever want to decide to stop talking like a crackwhore and discuss the facts. Furthermore, I did five years on the Rapid Deployment Force. Coward eh? What did your candy ass do?

Want to know something else? In February of 1998, my unit was in the first wave of what would have been Bill Clinton's exact same invasion of Iraq. We were about to board the planes. What stopped it? Annan intervened to give Saddam "one last chance."

The Democrat hypocrites were all on board for this adventure.

Matt Dedinas
3rd Infantry Division (1996-1999)

Posted by: Cato Uticensis at October 26, 2004 08:29 PM

Matt, you can smell the parrot head propoganda stink coming off of you from here. Get your head out of your ass and take a look at some real news sources, news max is weak weak weak

Posted by: Matt is and idiot at October 26, 2004 11:38 PM

This "October Surprise" advanced by the DNC, NYT and CBS has fizzled before it ever got any traction.
Imagine what the polls would reflect if the media was not in the tank for one candidate. 20 point lead for Bush? 30?
It is more important to ask; Was this bogus story a plant by the Bush camp to get the gullible Kerry kids and the desperate CBS to make fools of themselves.

Posted by: broadstreetbully at October 27, 2004 09:14 PM

To Idiot- Naaaahhhh, what you're smelling is probably yourself not having taken a bath in a few weeks.

As for real news sources, what sources do you recommend? Should I read Jayson Blair's column in the New York Times? Should I listen to Dan Rather read more forged documents to me? Maybe I should let the UN make a fake story so I can learn to love Big Brother like you have? Who's the one looking at weak sources?

Oh, and you have great moral courage, whoever you are, Idiot. Go tell your mommy to change your wet diaper.

Matt Dedinas
3rd Infantry Division (1996-1999)

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