Buried in the Wash. Times: al-Qaeda wants Bush!
Here's a translation of a story from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon's Washington Times that's getting prominent play on the Drudge Report. (shocking, right?) The headline: "Terrorists hope to defeat Bush through Iraq violence."
The truth is, there's thousands of insurgents in Iraq (more every day, in fact) and yes, it wasn't hard for a WT reporter to find a couple to spout their desire to see an American president go down in flames, politically speaking, in next week's election.
"If the U.S. Army suffered numerous humiliating losses, [Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John] Kerry would emerge as the superman of the American people," said Mohammad Amin Bashar, a leader of the Muslim Scholars Association, a hard-line clerical group that vocally supports the resistance.
Resistance leader Abu Jalal boasted that the mounting violence had already hurt Mr. Bush's chances. "American elections and Iraq are linked tightly together," he told a Fallujah-based Iraqi reporter. "We've got to work to change the election, and we've done so. With our strikes, we've dragged Bush into the mud."
We won't dwell on the fact that "liberated" Fallujah isn't safe enough for an American to go and do interviews. But we will point out this: The Washington Times buried the lead of the story! If you keep reading, you'll find that al-Qaeda actually supports Bush. Here's the real news:
Mowafaq Al-Tai, a London-educated architect and intellectual, said different types of resistance fighters have different views of the U.S. election. The most pro-Kerry, he said, are the former Saddam Hussein loyalists — Ba'ath Party members and others who think Washington might scale back its ambitions for Iraq if Mr. Kerry wins, allowing them to re-enter civic life.
The most pro-Bush, he said, are the foreign extremists. "They prefer Bush, because he's a provocative figure, and the more they can push people to the extreme, the better for their case."
Foreign extremists inside Iraq? Who might that be? Hmmm, could they possibly mean...al-Qaeda? You bet! So there you have it. America's most conservative newspaper says that the folks who killed nearly 3,000 Americans on 9/11 want four more years of Bush in office.
Can you interpret that any other way?
Posted on October 27, 2004 08:37 AM
I find it very interesting that someone can take one comment and base a whole argument upon an assumption made by one person in a "conservative newspaper" and state that it is a fact. It is very absurd in my opinion that any extremist group wants a President who is pro-active against terrorism to be elected and therefore further inhibit their ability to strike out. The fact that plans of U.S. schools have been found in Iraq's Ministry of Defense by our military only states that without a pro-active stance against terrorism that more strikes against the U.S., although inevitable, would be sooner than later. As the World Trade Center Towers fell I wondered where my precious cousin was. She like so many that day were running for their lives as the Towers fell. With dust in her hair, she was afraid for her life. The previous day she had been in the Towers. It is a matter of timing whether she would be alive today. It is a matter of timing whether others in our nation will live or die.
This story is such a transparent plant by the White House is borders on the laughable. To really believe that a bunch of religious mullahs are taking sides in the US presidential election to the degree that they will provide pithy quotes to the Washington Times is an absolute joke.
I guess this is what the White House feels is touche for the alleged NYT/60 Minutes plant on the missing explosives.
Just when you think politics can't get any lower and lamer, it manages to do just that. No wonder our best and brightest aren't hanging out in DC.
John Smith argues well that one cannot base an assumption on one interview. However, if he (and the public) read "Imperial Hubris--Why the West Is Losing the War on Terror" written by an experienced CIA officer, the point is made repeatedly in the book that the Iraqi war has made it easier for the terrorists to recruit, and that Islamic moderates have turned against the U.S. because of the war.
The fact that plans of U.S. schools have been found in Iraq's Ministry of Defense by our military...
This is a load of crap. Man these wingers sure are ignorant.
I hope lots of extremists go to Iraq. That way we can kill them in bunches instead of one at a time. We could put up signs along the border, “Martyrdom Special. Ten for the price of one. The virgins are waiting for you.”
Al Qaeda endorsed Bush back in April. FoxNews said so!
"In its statement, Abu Hafs al-Masri said it was calling a truce in Spain to give the socialist government that was elected Sunday, three days after the train attacks, time to carry out its pledge to withdraw troops from Iraq. The group appeared to boast it had the power to change governments. "We change and destroy countries," the statement said. "We even influence the international economy, and this is God's blessing to us." The statement tells American voters that Abu Hafs al-Masri supports the re-election campaign of President Bush: "We are very keen that Bush does not lose the upcoming elections." The statement said Abu Hafs al-Masri needs what it called Bush's "idiocy and religious fanaticism" because they would "wake up" the Islamic world. Parts of the statement were released Wednesday night by the editor of another London-based Arabic newspaper, Al Hayat. The editor read parts of the statement to The Associated Press in Cairo."
Are terrorists smart enough to attempt reverse psychology?
Hey, John Smith. Perhaps if you'd read something other than Fox you would have heard that those 'school plans' were photos taken from government websites, and that the person whose computer they were found on had NO ties to terrorism, or the insurgency, or any crimes at all. He worked for the Iraqi public school system, in their developement depertment. You've been had. Again.
Its a good thing that terrorists are all idiots that will rush to their holy deaths in Iraq, that way they won't be holed up somewhere plotting revenge against the US for invading their holy lands on what they view as a Crusade.
I for one see hitting soldiers (under-reported) and Iraqi civilians (almost not reported at all) being their main purpose in life, not planning attacks on American soil.
Grow up and act like adults, wingers. Terrorists don't go rushing to Iraq just because we want them to. They will strike on American soil again and again and again until someone works on our security as well as world-wide security. Right now we're isolated and we've pissed off so much of the world we're at a greater danger than ever before.
Ted- "Are terrorists smart enough to attempt reverse psychology?"
No, Ted, obviously not. But they are smarter than you.
Are the terrorists smart enough for reverse psychology?
They've managed to tie up the world's only superpower with a small fraction of the resources and personnel we have.
They managed to get two shots at the Twin Towers, knocking them down on their second try.
They've set wheels in motion that have isolated the U.S. from most of the rest of the world.
God knows that right now they look smarter than the administration, whose job I know is infinitely more difficult because they must consider the long-term in ways terrorists don't and they can't pursue their goals (quite) as nihilistically (sp?) as the terrorists.
Not a bad insult. I rate it a 60 on a scale of 1 to 100.
Frankly, the whole premise of picking a President based on what al-Qaeda thinks is absurd. I don't let terrorists decide who I vote for. Whether you're for Kerry or Bush (I'm for Kerry, BTW), vote for them because you agree with them, not because of fear.
Is Bush pro-active? Certainly. He is also hopelessly inept. The terrorists could not possibly have invented a more desirable opponent. The success we've had to date is due to America's inherent strength ("Clinton's army" all all that led to it), not its present leadership. Nothing could be more clear.
Ah yes, the "Independent" Washington Times...driving the country right while Moon pushes the theocratic buttons. When is the country going to awaken to the fact that Moon's billions have been driving the wingnut bus for 25 years. They are NOT in power without him.
read some of that here:
The famous term “melting pot” is always used to describe America. However, Reverend Moon came to America over twenty-five years ago but he has not become Americanized at all. Rather he has caused America to become Moonized. (Sun Myung Moon - June 5, 1997)
John Smith helps ruin what might have been a good thread by jumping in with incomprehensible rambling that ends up with a cousin with WTC dust in her hair. Would that he followed this alarming immage with some pique that the GWB administration ignored specific, credible threat warnings, but no, his remarks sigh to a close without this most obvious conclusion being reached. I think it's safe to say that there is absolutely no evidence that the Bush-sponsored Iraq offensive has inhibited terrorists "ability to strike out." Didn't in fact terrorism worldwide increased dramatically in 2003 (after revising for the lies of the administration, and without counting Iraq and Afghanistan...)? And what about the monthly increase in violence in Iraq itse...oh, I see, those weren't actually threats to him personally so john doesn't count them. Got it. What a goober.
P.S.--Ted, you play video games too much. If war is such a cartoon and so easy, why aren't you in Iraq fighting instead of eating Cheetos in front of your monitor, wimp? Not old enough to enlist?
John Smith is confused.
Perhaps all Muslims look the same to him.
Al Qaeda attacked us on 9/11. Saudi Arabians in the planes, led by a Saudi Arabian, with Saudi Arabian financing, propelled by a virulentlly conservative brand of Islam, Wahabbism.
Bush is attacking the wrong people in Iraq. He, and you, don't know the enemy. THAT is why Bush is good for bin Laden.
Of course Al-Qaeda wants Bush to win. Bush is the best thing that ever happened to them. He has given them the Jihad they always wanted. As we kill innocent Arab civilians more Arabs turn to their extremist views. Bush and Al-Qaeda both benefit from this war. Bush and his buddies get rich, while Al-Qaeda gets more popular, mission accomplished. Guess who pays the bill.
I had to laugh: Bush is pro-active ?
Man, the only reason some of the terrorists might be less than grateful to Bush for the recruiting bonanza, is because they hate effeminate men like him.
Such disparaging remarks about The Drudge Report.
Is there some animosity towards a guy who has demonstrated he can single handedly do a better job in reporting the news then all of the old standard mainstream newspapers combined?
The same Drudge website links legitimate newspapers throughout the world on his site.
Even though Drudge has been a force for years, it wasn't until a few months ago that he started to link the PDN and Inquirer.
Of course the Liberal Media prostitute who wrote this entry only gives you half the story. He fails to mention that in the story, most terrorists in fact want Kerry to win, especially former Ba'athists, Kerry's socialist brothers. What a liar Bunch is.
I am amazed that the biggest story in Pennsylvania today is not even being commented on by Bunch, especially given the volumes of verbal flatulence he posts on this blog, you'd think he might condescend to mention about Governor Rendell disenfranchising my military brothers overseas by not getting them absentee ballots on time and not extending the deadline for them to turn them in.
Now, to listen to Democrats, they complain so loudly about "disenfranchisement" and "let every vote count." They also claim to care oh so much about our troops in the field. So why can't they even be bothered to complain about this outrage? (dont bother answering this question, it was rhetorical, we all know the Dems couldnt care less about our troops).
3rd Infantry Division (1996-1999)
Bush and the wingnuts love our troops. That's why they are giving them this wonderful opportunity in Iraq. Think of the perks these guys get: the flowers, the love of the Iraqi people, the prosthetic limbs, the flag draped boxes, and the joy of being managed by a true winner. You should blame Nader for disenfranchising your military brothers. Had he not submitted petitions with false signatures there wouldn't have been a problem.
You left out being "helped" by "loyal" Americans such as yourself, Pig.
If Bush is so bad for the troops, then why are they voting for him, 75%? Maybe they know something you don't.
And it's funny, Dems are always talking about how we need "choice" on the ballot. Why not let Nader on the ballot? We never tried to take Perot off the ballot. In any event, is it the troops' fault that their ballots were not prepared in time? No, it would be the easiest thing in the world for Mr Rendell to say "ok, you guys can have a few extra days to get your ballots in." But no. He is not going to allow a block of voters break 4 or 5 to 1 for Bush to vote. He is a royal bastard.
3rd Infantry Division (1996-1999)
"If Bush is so bad for the troops, then why are they voting for him, 75%? Maybe they know something you don't."
Wow, didn't know those votes had already been all tallied. Guess you know something none of us do.
Meanwhile, here's one soldier who definitely won't be voting for Bush:
hey guys a got one too.....vietcong for kerry!!!
I will address some of your (points?):
"If Bush is so bad for the troops, then why are they voting for him, 75%? Maybe they know something you don't."
Some alterative theories:
1. There are a disproportionate number of wingnuts like yourself in the military.
2. Maybe they don't know something that I do, since they are fed a steady diet of pro-Bush propaganda.
3. All those untested vaccines and the depleted uranium they are exposed to effect brain function.
"And it's funny, Dems are always talking about how we need "choice" on the ballot. Why not let Nader on the ballot? "
Because he did not have the required number of signatures on his petitions. Many of the signatures were false. This is why the courts would not let him on the ballot.
"it would be the easiest thing in the world for Mr Rendell to say "ok, you guys can have a few extra days to get your ballots in." "
Its not the easiest thing in the world. We want the election to be over on 10/3. If we give them a few extra days there is a possiblity that we become another Florida. I know it sucks but you should blame Nader for turning in petitions with bogus signatures.
"You left out being "helped" by "loyal" Americans such as yourself"
I hate it when people who have no clue about what democracy is question my patriotism. If our founding Fathers were loyal Britons the way you are a loyal American there would be no United States. You would be too busy kissing king George's ass to revolt. To you and your ilk being a loyal American means getting behind the President no matter how misguided and stupid his policies are. Sorry, I don't play that.
Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.
I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul by swearing allegiance to one whose character is that of a sottish, stupid, stubborn, worthless, brutish man.
Chuck- It's called a POLL, maybe you've heard of them?
Anyways, I'm not too interested in what sellouts to the Dems say. Yes, there are a minority of those.
Pig- Or maybe soldiers are people who live with the real world and have a wiser view of it than you in your ivory tower. You see, you have no business looking down on them. You are a typical Liberal, condescending to anyone who doesn't swallow the garbage you put out.
As for Rendell, how would it make Pennsylvania into another Florida? That is hypocrisy, as the Democrats were constantly chanting "let every vote count." So, how are you not in favor of letting the votes of duly registered people count? It's just that they are mostly Republican.
As for loyalty, no, I don't believe that honest disagreement is disloyal. However, giving aid and comfort to an enemy in time of war, as you Liberals have done EVERY STINKING TIME we've been at war for the last forty years is betrayal. To make up lies against the president is not loyal dissent. It is backstabbing and it is disloyal. I mean, free speech is something that the Left screeches constantly about, but doesnt even believe in. Politcal Correctness and all. Liberalism is inherently Unamerican, it is Eurasian Socialism. Those are the facts and my loyalty is to America, not your delicate feelings.
There is a difference between honest, constructive criticism and lying demagoguery. Your side falls into the latter and it is tearing the country apart.
OK, Matt point by point:
"Or maybe soldiers are people who live with the real world and have a wiser view of it than you in your ivory tower. You see, you have no business looking down on them. You are a typical Liberal, condescending to anyone who doesn't swallow the garbage you put out."
How does living in a barrracks where everybody looks and dresses the same constitute "living in the real world". Military life is contrived, its not the real world. As for the ivory tower, that is where Bush and the wingnuts live. You all are the kings of idealism over reality. Every prediction you make is wrong. Most every policy you support is a disaster. As for calling me a liberal, you don't even know me. It is you who is spewing shallow garbage. You don't even know what the hell you are talking about.
"As for Rendell, how would it make Pennsylvania into another Florida? That is hypocrisy, as the Democrats were constantly chanting "let every vote count." So, how are you not in favor of letting the votes of duly registered people count? It's just that they are mostly Republican."
We would have to wait around while the military vote is counted instead of reporting our results right after election day. If the military vote is not counted I think that sucks, but I put the blame where it belongs: on Ralph Nader and his Republican funders. Had they not turned in bogus petitions this problem would not exist. Perhaps you will address this point in one of your next posts rather than calling me names. Your posts are short on defending position, and long on attacking opponent's personally.
"There is a difference between honest, constructive criticism and lying demagoguery..."
Seems to me that criticism of the government you agree with is "honest constructive criticism", and any criticism you don't agree with is "lying demagoguery".
"Liberalism is inherently Unamerican, it is Eurasian Socialism."
Your mind is blank and your eyes are shut. Here's the Merriam-Webster definition of Liberalism, but you probably won't buy it. Its from those pinko intellectuals you so hate. You where born too late, Matt. You would have done well in Germany circa 1938.
a often capitalized : a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing intellectual liberty and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianity b : a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard c : a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties
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