July 19, 2004
Is fat a sickness?

THERESA: The government is wising up to the health threats posed by obesity. Medicare is now defining obesity as an illness and will cover treatments for some weight-loss programs. But some detractors are troubled by this. "We have a tremendously exaggerated fear of higher than average weight in this culture," said University of Colorado law professor Paul Campos, author of "The Obesity Myth." "What's partly baseless is this notion that the government needs to intervene to make Americans thinner," Campos said.

Thoughts, girlfriends?

YVONNE: This is a tremendous step in the right direction in treating the epidemic that is obesity, as long as obesity is defined as 30 or more pounds overweight. I think the attitude of Mr. Campos helps perpetuate many people's complacency with their own obesity. Obesity is not about vanity. It's about early, preventable death. It's about chronic pain and discomfort. It's about depression and other mental suffering.

WENDY: I have to tell you, I was appalled when I heard this. Yes, I know that, through Medicare, we end up paying for the damage caused by obesity in other ways -- treating diabetes or heart disease. But good GRIEF, can't people take care of themselves? And what about people who have had to pay for such treatment themselves (insurance coverage is still spotty, folks) or have done in the old-fashioned, non-surgical, hard way -- by changing their lives? I just think this will encourage a victim culture -- being fat happened to me! -- when what we need to do is get people to take responsibility for their own health.

YVONNE W: I saw Carnie Wilson on TV last week and she referred to obesity as a disease. If medicare will cover weight loss treatment for Americans with health related issues I think that's great.


Comments

Taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for what people could and should do for themselves. Still, my heart goes out to all the people who can't seem to get a grip on their diet and exercise habits. A lot of this is caused by depression, ignorance and low self esteem. I'm in favor of seeing my tax dollars go toward encouraging people to adopt healthy lifestyles.

Posted by: Jenice on July 19, 2004 10:34 AM

It was government agriculture policies that helped promote production of high-fructose corn syrup and palm oil that are used to produce the transfats and high-calorie foods that have helped lead to the country's obesity problem. Read "Fat Land: How Americans Became the Fattest People in the World" by Greg Critser. It's an easy read and provides good perspective on how the government has contributed to the nation's obesity problem. And the poor seem to be hit especially hard, because the cheapest food is often the worst nutritionally.
Our tax dollars are wasted in all kinds of ways. I have no problem with spending tax money to help someone who can't afford to join a gym and knows little about nutrition get on the road to health.
I am concerned about the popularity of surgery to battle obesity, whether Medicare pays for it or not. It's so risky.

Posted by: Theresa on July 19, 2004 10:36 AM

So 30 pounds over is the definition of obese? But is a number enough? There was a time in college when I weighed about 30 pounds more than I do now. I was a pudge, girlfriends, though I wouldn't have called myself obese. At the time I did 2 hours of yoga a day. I could do a handstand, sit in full lotus position and more. It seems to me that you could be a very healthy, somewhat fat person - or a very unhealthy, very skinny person.
Medicare is going to provide much-needed coverage for more preventative health care, like weight-loss programs, and a preventive focus always seems like a good thing to me. But at the same time, we can't be so quick to label people based on a less-than-perfect appearance. Determining your health solely by your weight seems deceiving.

Posted by: Laurie on July 19, 2004 10:37 AM

I agree with Laurie. I once did a story on whether it's possible to be fit and also obese, and here is what I was told:

"Thin people do not have a monopoly on fitness," said Glenn A. Gaesser, author of "Big Fat Lies" (Fawcett-Columbine, 1996). "It's kind of a myth.
"I'm not saying it's OK to be fat," said Gaesser, who has a doctorate in exercise physiology and teaches at the University of Virginia. "I just think you can't measure health on a scale. It may give you maybe a rough idea that someone's lifestyle may be less than heart-healthy.
"We weigh what we do largely because of genes and genetics," he added. "The body is not intrinsically malleable...We can't mold it and reshape it into any shape we want. That's a major fallacy."

Dr. John D. Kelly IV, an assistant professor of orthopedic surgery at Temple University, said people have to get over the notion that to be fit, they have to have very low body fat.

"There are many of my patients who work out every day but they still have love handles," he said. "They're still fit. They're still running six miles.

"The key is self-acceptance," Kelly added.

Dr. Moe Lerner, a Canada-based physician referred by the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance, agreed.

"This business of being fat is a very complex issue," he said. "It's not just that this guy eats too much, he's lazy. It isn't their own fault . . . And that's why 98 percent of diets fail."

One theory is that millions of years ago, the human body the human body was programmed to store fat because it was uncertain when it would next get food. But now that food is abundant and can be obtained without a lot of physical energy, more people than ever are overweight.

"Fat people are at the top of the evolutionary chain," said Lerner, who weighs more than 400 pounds. "They are the people who would have survived" back then.

Still, in these modern times, as Dr. Joseph Bernstein, director of sports medicine at the University of Pennsylvania pointed out, "being overfat is a risk factor."

People who weigh more than their recommended weight are at a greater risk of heart disease, diabetes, some cancers and other health problems, he said.

"You can definitely carry around some extra around your waist and still be fit," Bernstein said. "You're not going to necessarily lose any fitness, but it's probably not healthy in the long run."


Posted by: Jenice on July 19, 2004 10:38 AM

I've got one more thing to say and then I'll shut up. We can't expect the government to really lead the way in terms of developing or promoting good health practices. Too many politicians are so indebted to certain industries that we can't expect them not to promote certain foods or practices.

Posted by: Jenice on July 19, 2004 11:00 AM

Hear hear, Jenice!! I am concerned about turning this into something for the government to "fix," when it should be an important part of people taking care -- of themselves.

Posted by: Wendy on July 19, 2004 11:15 AM

Medicare pays for heart surgery, treatments for diabetes and stroke, and all kinds of other expenses incurred because of obesity. I do think it's cost effective to spend some of that money on prevention.

Posted by: Theresa on July 19, 2004 11:16 AM

Here's another question: Has anyone heard what they will be paying for? Surgery? Health club dues? And does that kind of support actually work -- in other words, does it make a bit of difference if we get $100 back for a year's worth of gym fees from our insurance company? I don't think it does; I think Daniel would go anyway, and God knows nothing's getting me to the gym. Is there a way for an insurance program to encourage healthy habits, and what's the success rate?

Posted by: Wendy on July 19, 2004 11:16 AM

It sounds like patients will have to pass a review process before getting help to pay for diet or exercise programs. Here's what CNN's story says: "With the removal of language in Medicare policy that said obesity is not an illness, beneficiaries will be able to request a government review of medical evidence to determine whether certain treatments for obesity can be covered.
Though Medicare and Medicaid programs cover sicknesses caused by obesity -- including type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, several types of cancer and gallbladder disease -- the previous policy meant that weight-loss therapies have often been denied coverage.
"The medical science will now determine whether we provide coverage for the treatments that reduce complications and improve quality of life for the millions of Medicare beneficiaries who are obese," said Mark McClellan, administrator of the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which oversees health insurance programs for the elderly, disabled and poor."

Posted by: Theresa on July 19, 2004 11:17 AM

Jenice, I think I must have remembered that story when I wrote my comments! But I do disagree that it's bad for the government to subsidize weight-loss programs, under circumstances where a physician has found health problems related to a person's obesity.

Posted by: Laurie on July 19, 2004 11:19 AM

I fear what sorts of astounding inequities we'd discover peering under the rock of insurance coverage and whether what we pay for does any good... ARE there any stats out there?
At least now more companies that cover Viagra are paying for birth control pills!
How about dental care - we get coverage for preventative exams and cleaning. Does that cut down on cavities?

Posted by: Laurie on July 19, 2004 11:20 AM

The debate as to whether "obesity" is a disease rages on. However, the bottom line is personal responsibility more than medical treatment. Each of us has to decide the quality of life we want and JUST DO IT! That is eat smart and exercise daily.

Posted by: Kimberly Garrison on July 19, 2004 01:15 PM

I totally agree with Theresa's first comments. One of the reasons why obesity hits the poor at a statistically higher rate is because cheaper food is usually the worst choices when it comes to nutrition. The poor are usually lacking when it comes to being educated on proper nutrition and accessibility to exercise facilities. I think that the government must lead the way to do something about the obesity problem in America. The alternative is the increased strain it will put on the medical system due to increases in heart disease, diabetes, hypertension and some forms of cancer. All directly related to obesity.

Posted by: David on July 19, 2004 03:49 PM

Well Wendy you must have never had a problem with your weight or maybe only had to loose "10" lbs. Well im glad to see the government realize that obesity is a serious problem. Being "obese" my self it is a big struggle to get the help i need. I do work, and i do have insurance but they do not cover weightloss programs,but im hoping by the government stepping up to the plate they will too.
People need to realize that being overweight is not something alot of obese people choose to be. There is a lot of misconception that we are overweight because we eat high-fat high calorie foods..WRONG!!!!!! I have four children who i make sure eat right so they dont end up like me. Personally i think someone who has never had a serious problem with being overweight should comment on something they know nothing about only think they do.

Posted by: Betty Lear on July 20, 2004 12:22 PM

correction: I dont think people should comment on soemthing know nothing about,only think they do.

And I do take care of myself.

Posted by: Betty Lear on July 20, 2004 12:27 PM

Oh please give me a break, society has ditacted what is the idea weight, so why not let society pay.

Posted by: on July 21, 2004 09:51 AM

People know what they are eating and they are what they eat.If they don't care! Why should we have to pay the price. No one over 150 lbs is allowed in my car. My weight is 120 I am 5ft3inches

Posted by: judith postelle on August 5, 2004 03:06 PM

I am 215 lbs, 5'9" and I am training for a marathon. I will run 18 miles tomorrow as part of my training. I wonder judith if you could do the same. I wouldn't want to ride in your car or be anywhere around you as you are obviously ignorant.

Posted by: Jen on August 27, 2004 05:40 PM

Thanks

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